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[VERTAALD] Dogs and several immune diseases

Berichtdoor Sandra » za 24 jun, 2006 00:06

Dear Mr. Lonsdale,

1.
Is it safe to put a dog on raw meat diet when it is sovering with
Leishmaniasis disease: the dog has severe kidney and liver problems right now and can not eat anything. He is going through chemotherapy on Glucotamine injections which is very bad for those organs. I asked this question already on this board, but I would like to hear your point of view on this. Should you prefer the real RMB or the grinded one (commercial)?

2.
In your books you state out that a little bit of vegetables is no problem. My dogs do get some vegetables (10%/15%) which I believe could have an extra function for anti-oxydants and mineral/vitamines besides the function as natural fiber source. What's your clear opinion about using vegetables into the diet?

3.
Eleptical dogs in general:
is it safe to put those dogs on fasten days while they are on medicine? What about changing blood sugar levels etc. when feeding at different times and let fasten those dogs?
MOD: a similar question is asked by Chriske
http://www.voernatuurlijk.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5134


4.
Skin and fur of wild rabbits/hares:
Is it sensible to freeze those animals before giving?
The same for the tripe/fish like salmon.

Thank you so much for making time to answer those questions.

I am an enthousiastic raw feeder myself and I am very glad trying to feed like your vision. Thanks so much for coming to The Netherlands.

Greets,
Sandra

*RMB-specialist*
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Re: Dogs and several immune diseases

Berichtdoor Tom Lonsdale » wo 28 jun, 2006 14:08

Hi Sandra and all,

Dear Mr. Lonsdale,

1.
Is it safe to put a dog on raw meat diet when it is sovering with
Leishmaniasis disease: the dog has severe kidney and liver problems right now and can not eat anything. He is going through chemotherapy on Glucotamine injections which is very bad for those organs. I asked this question already on this board, but I would like to hear your point of view on this. Should you prefer the real RMB or the grinded one (commercial)?

[font=Andalus]Sorry, I have no experience treating Leishmaniasis patients so cannot speak directly about this. However, I would refer you to previous comments about feeding chronic kidney disease dogs. The same generally speaking goes for supporting liver disease dogs. Let them eat small meals of appropriate good quality food.

Ground food is almost never indicated. For very weak animals, and that sometime arises toward the end of life, chopped meat can be fed. No need to provide ground bones. For short term feeding bone is not necessary. (Have addressed the ground bone issue in response to Roger's question. Also there's info in the books and at: http://secureshop.rawmeatybones.com/new ... .epl?id=41
and
http://secureshop.rawmeatybones.com/new ... .epl?id=20[/font]


2.
In your books you state out that a little bit of vegetables is no problem. My dogs do get some vegetables (10%/15%) which I believe could have an extra function for anti-oxydants and mineral/vitamines besides the function as natural fiber source. What's your clear opinion about using vegetables into the diet?


[font=Andalus]For sure dogs and cats can and do eat vegetables in a domestic setting. In the wild they don't tend to eat much if anything in the way of vegetables except the chyme in the small bowel. Some chyme, I suspect, is of benefit, but not something that's been shown to be essential or even necessary.

Barfers and canned/kibble manufacturers make much of the supposed anti-oxydant, mineral, vitamin and fibre benefits. But they never present any scientific evidence and simply play on people's beliefs.

For a whacky statement on fruit and vege check out Billinghurt's quote from his 1988 presentation: 'Fruit and vegetables are an essential part of every dog's diet. An essential part, not an optional part. Meat is optional, fruit and vegetables are not.'

It's all a cruel hoax really. If people want to mimic what's in the stomach of herbivores then probably best to run the lawnmower up [font=]and down a couple of times and make the grass clippings into a slurry. Then ideally should ferment the mix at 38.5 degrees with rumen bacteria and then feed the resultant brew. But of course by this time the brew will be mostly the bodies of dead and live bacteria -- micro-prey. [/font]


3.
Eleptical dogs in general:
is it safe to put those dogs on fasten days while they are on medicine? What about changing blood sugar levels etc. when feeding at different times and let fasten those dogs?
MOD: a similar question is asked by Chriske
http://www.voernatuurlijk.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5134


[font=Andalus]Best not to fast dogs that are sick. Best to make small meals available as and when they like. (Which still means supplying the food in one whole piece for them to chew on when they want.)[/font]

Thank you so much for making time to answer those questions.

I am an enthousiastic raw feeder myself and I am very glad trying to feed like your vision. Thanks so much for coming to The Netherlands.


[font=Arial]Thanks for your thanks. It's good to be here.

Keep up the good work,

Tom Lonsdale[/font]

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